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		<title>By: Jinx</title>
		<link>http://pujanggamalam.com/2008/07/10/anugerah-band-2008-the-final-review/#comment-1258</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[guess we have the winner already then yah.. so cheers to Rancour =)

again, such colorful response from all sides and some are predictable and some, did surprised me... we&#039;re all open-minded yeah...

maybe the best vox should have gone to fadley ... but again, its been done ... so, the best musician is a mistake i see??
hmmm, since ive seen him (alif) jammed first hand, what u guys reckon he lacked? ... did he looked slightly stand-offish? a lil arrogant-like? too much rock star attitude maybe??

well, when i first met him few years back, yeah, my sentiments too but when u really get  to know him, hes a real cool guy... his love for vai is the undying kind, as u all know it... hes like a small kid whenever he talks about him, that shows how human he is... his first wife is definitely his guitar.. no doubt bout that.. he breathes, sleeps, consumes music... its his soul... i just have this thing bout observing people la ..haha

so, i always tot his future in music will be brighter for he has an exceptional talent in it... when he plays, he plays it from the heart (so uve heard =P)..but he got guts, presence and passion.. that i dun see in many musician nowadays.. and im not saying becoz hes my old friend, ive seen alot of musicians played and many dun really possess the &quot;IT&quot; factor to be one.. most r in it for all the wrong reasons;  fame, the cool factor and the cliched, girls... which is sooo wrong... 

but nonetheless, i salute all who had performed in the combo performance.. the standing ovation was to be expected for they all deserved it... i think the best one of all the performance in AB... most memorable one ever...

the helven&#039;s guitarist (sorry, dunno the name) too, was a joy to see.. his last performance with his band was phenomenal, and so was with the Ikrar Perwira performance.. the opening was classic.. he too, is one hell of a talented guy... if not for alif, he or the shahril guy should have won ..
x-tech drummer should have won sumthin too ... oh hell, the whole x-tech members should have their own individual awards lah...

so, right there, is a union of the best musicians singapore could have ever witnessed in the entire of malay rock talent show history... just unforgetable, it&#039;ll definitely be in my list of superb rock performances...
me too was giving the loudest clap ever at home hah... teringat tengok Muse Live in Singapore  =P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>guess we have the winner already then yah.. so cheers to Rancour =)</p>
<p>again, such colorful response from all sides and some are predictable and some, did surprised me&#8230; we&#8217;re all open-minded yeah&#8230;</p>
<p>maybe the best vox should have gone to fadley &#8230; but again, its been done &#8230; so, the best musician is a mistake i see??<br />
hmmm, since ive seen him (alif) jammed first hand, what u guys reckon he lacked? &#8230; did he looked slightly stand-offish? a lil arrogant-like? too much rock star attitude maybe??</p>
<p>well, when i first met him few years back, yeah, my sentiments too but when u really get  to know him, hes a real cool guy&#8230; his love for vai is the undying kind, as u all know it&#8230; hes like a small kid whenever he talks about him, that shows how human he is&#8230; his first wife is definitely his guitar.. no doubt bout that.. he breathes, sleeps, consumes music&#8230; its his soul&#8230; i just have this thing bout observing people la ..haha</p>
<p>so, i always tot his future in music will be brighter for he has an exceptional talent in it&#8230; when he plays, he plays it from the heart (so uve heard =P)..but he got guts, presence and passion.. that i dun see in many musician nowadays.. and im not saying becoz hes my old friend, ive seen alot of musicians played and many dun really possess the &#8220;IT&#8221; factor to be one.. most r in it for all the wrong reasons;  fame, the cool factor and the cliched, girls&#8230; which is sooo wrong&#8230; </p>
<p>but nonetheless, i salute all who had performed in the combo performance.. the standing ovation was to be expected for they all deserved it&#8230; i think the best one of all the performance in AB&#8230; most memorable one ever&#8230;</p>
<p>the helven&#8217;s guitarist (sorry, dunno the name) too, was a joy to see.. his last performance with his band was phenomenal, and so was with the Ikrar Perwira performance.. the opening was classic.. he too, is one hell of a talented guy&#8230; if not for alif, he or the shahril guy should have won ..<br />
x-tech drummer should have won sumthin too &#8230; oh hell, the whole x-tech members should have their own individual awards lah&#8230;</p>
<p>so, right there, is a union of the best musicians singapore could have ever witnessed in the entire of malay rock talent show history&#8230; just unforgetable, it&#8217;ll definitely be in my list of superb rock performances&#8230;<br />
me too was giving the loudest clap ever at home hah&#8230; teringat tengok Muse Live in Singapore  =P</p>
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		<title>By: BanZai</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Salam PM!

Great review as always...been an avid reader of your blog the last few months..

Barring a major disaster, RANCOUR had to win the night! Especially with the AMU (Suria) coming along, the members of RANCOUR do have potential to go into acting, hosting...compared to the other 3 bands. 

Personally, I felt X-Tech and Fatskunks gave the best performances of the night....if you exclude the final performance where all the powers combined! Magic!

I must agree with Bualgitar that Shahril of X-Tech should be the best musician and best vocalist to go with Fadley or Farhan. And Sixth Sense would have lost if they particpated in the finals!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salam PM!</p>
<p>Great review as always&#8230;been an avid reader of your blog the last few months..</p>
<p>Barring a major disaster, RANCOUR had to win the night! Especially with the AMU (Suria) coming along, the members of RANCOUR do have potential to go into acting, hosting&#8230;compared to the other 3 bands. </p>
<p>Personally, I felt X-Tech and Fatskunks gave the best performances of the night&#8230;.if you exclude the final performance where all the powers combined! Magic!</p>
<p>I must agree with Bualgitar that Shahril of X-Tech should be the best musician and best vocalist to go with Fadley or Farhan. And Sixth Sense would have lost if they particpated in the finals!!</p>
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		<title>By: Kak Lis</title>
		<link>http://pujanggamalam.com/2008/07/10/anugerah-band-2008-the-final-review/#comment-1254</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kak Lis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ari, get out from your cage! Maybe this is the criteria that they have been searching for all this while. Stop whining, bro Ari. Nanti kau masok Anugerah Band, aku bawak banner besaq besaq support kau!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ari, get out from your cage! Maybe this is the criteria that they have been searching for all this while. Stop whining, bro Ari. Nanti kau masok Anugerah Band, aku bawak banner besaq besaq support kau!</p>
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		<title>By: Ari</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I say the competition doesn&#039;t do justice to the bands. Rancour included. They do not deserve my rants in my blog but they are sure the obvious winners for the contract.

But throughout my experience lah kan, tak pernah umor clash of the bands di menangi oleh genre punk. Yang paling selalu menang usually tasteful technical genre mcm funk, rock-ish..., metal I would say.

Ini macam Aliff Aziz kalau nyanyi &quot;enjit2 semut&quot; pon tetap menang.

Kalau ini kan, aku nak kumpol duit byk-byk buy over suria and re-vamp the whole direction of the organisation. Teros aku nak buat reality citer blue... semut biru jadi judge. And bila org komplen, senang ajer aku kasi alasan mcm nih, &quot;ini permintaan orang ramai... we follow the mass market brudder!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say the competition doesn&#8217;t do justice to the bands. Rancour included. They do not deserve my rants in my blog but they are sure the obvious winners for the contract.</p>
<p>But throughout my experience lah kan, tak pernah umor clash of the bands di menangi oleh genre punk. Yang paling selalu menang usually tasteful technical genre mcm funk, rock-ish&#8230;, metal I would say.</p>
<p>Ini macam Aliff Aziz kalau nyanyi &#8220;enjit2 semut&#8221; pon tetap menang.</p>
<p>Kalau ini kan, aku nak kumpol duit byk-byk buy over suria and re-vamp the whole direction of the organisation. Teros aku nak buat reality citer blue&#8230; semut biru jadi judge. And bila org komplen, senang ajer aku kasi alasan mcm nih, &#8220;ini permintaan orang ramai&#8230; we follow the mass market brudder!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Fatskunks ; The Aftermath. &#171; yatifadeolie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fatskunks ; The Aftermath. &#171; yatifadeolie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] His comments are insightful &amp; an eye opener but for some it may not. He is none other than Pujangga Malam no secret about that!&#8230;whoaah don&#8217;t get me wrong, do I sound sarcastic [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] His comments are insightful &amp; an eye opener but for some it may not. He is none other than Pujangga Malam no secret about that!&#8230;whoaah don&#8217;t get me wrong, do I sound sarcastic [...]</p>
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		<title>By: akakvogue</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Among all, I really gave credit to the best 3 vocalist  performing Ikrar Perwira last nite, especially to Aan from Knightwings.  He&#039;s awesome, has fantastic voice.  They deserved that standing ovation.

They are the actual champions of the nite!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Among all, I really gave credit to the best 3 vocalist  performing Ikrar Perwira last nite, especially to Aan from Knightwings.  He&#8217;s awesome, has fantastic voice.  They deserved that standing ovation.</p>
<p>They are the actual champions of the nite!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: LiliLayu</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LiliLayu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I totally agree with KakLis.  

We can whine and gripe but are we the ones laughing all the way to the bank?

Never for the life of me would I have guessed that Rancour would win.  I felt that throughout the whole competition, they&#039;re always lost somewhere behind the shadows of bands which are either the glossy and glam or the experienced &quot;Abang-Abang&quot;.  The fact that the judges do not quite favour them in earlier rounds (yes, that kelat slang again) makes this Final a surprising one indeed.  I just thought it&#039;s a bit unfair to make Fatskunks go through three rounds of heart-stopping suspense before announcing the winner.

However, I&#039;d have to give Rancour the credit.  Their first song was definitely kickass although I was disappointed with the second vocalist who did not do justice to the song.  The rest of the bands, although they have been quite consistent just lack that popularity vote I guess.  I was rooting for X-Tech or Abg2 Trabo but then again, they might not appeal to the general masses.  

I did not regret waiting patiently for the results though because that Rusty Blade cover gave me goosebumps.  They do deserve that standing ovation.  I&#039;m just not happy with Keigo Sphink getting the Follow Me Style Award.  Apa siak nak follow?  What style do they have?  Apart from girls looking like men, physically but tsk, tsk, I&#039;m just being nasty.  

Anyway, thanks PM for all your reviews.  It&#039;s been an interesting journey....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with KakLis.  </p>
<p>We can whine and gripe but are we the ones laughing all the way to the bank?</p>
<p>Never for the life of me would I have guessed that Rancour would win.  I felt that throughout the whole competition, they&#8217;re always lost somewhere behind the shadows of bands which are either the glossy and glam or the experienced &#8220;Abang-Abang&#8221;.  The fact that the judges do not quite favour them in earlier rounds (yes, that kelat slang again) makes this Final a surprising one indeed.  I just thought it&#8217;s a bit unfair to make Fatskunks go through three rounds of heart-stopping suspense before announcing the winner.</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;d have to give Rancour the credit.  Their first song was definitely kickass although I was disappointed with the second vocalist who did not do justice to the song.  The rest of the bands, although they have been quite consistent just lack that popularity vote I guess.  I was rooting for X-Tech or Abg2 Trabo but then again, they might not appeal to the general masses.  </p>
<p>I did not regret waiting patiently for the results though because that Rusty Blade cover gave me goosebumps.  They do deserve that standing ovation.  I&#8217;m just not happy with Keigo Sphink getting the Follow Me Style Award.  Apa siak nak follow?  What style do they have?  Apart from girls looking like men, physically but tsk, tsk, I&#8217;m just being nasty.  </p>
<p>Anyway, thanks PM for all your reviews.  It&#8217;s been an interesting journey&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Kak Lis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kak Lis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 04:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tompang komen ya pak...

Like i commented in Ari&#039;s, I knew Rancour would win. Seriously, mat metal boleh menang in this kind of competition ke? Bapak bapak wak kang? Or the gempalans? Seriously no offense to the choice of words. They are the truth. From the start of the semi&#039;s, kita semua(orang orang yang dah paham dan masak tentang competition melayu) mungkin dah dapat agak sapa yang akan masok, sapa yang akan menang. Rancour is the safest to win the 4 yr contract. Giler korang, AMPAT TAON. Jgn memain. Lama tu, so mesti lah pilih yang the safest and the one that can go far. All this planned lah. 

So what, lagu diaorg macam Blink 182, Greenday and Sum 41? Kids will like. I&#039;ve grown out of that phase liao.. Aku sekarang suka lagu spanish or anything gelek2. Dangdut pon ok jugak... oopss, digress lah pulak.. back to the topic, i thought the original song by Rancour sound very much like Blink 182. Mungkin telinga aku ni tak dengar sangat, tapi aku kuatkan volume nak komperm. Macam Blink 182 jugak aku dengar. 

Last but not least, mmg ada kita tak suka sapa yang menang, but nevertheless, yang menang diaorg bukan kita. Yang dapat duit, contract, hadiah, mangkok perek, semua diaorg.. bukan kita. So kita duduk one corner sakit hati sendiri.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tompang komen ya pak&#8230;</p>
<p>Like i commented in Ari&#8217;s, I knew Rancour would win. Seriously, mat metal boleh menang in this kind of competition ke? Bapak bapak wak kang? Or the gempalans? Seriously no offense to the choice of words. They are the truth. From the start of the semi&#8217;s, kita semua(orang orang yang dah paham dan masak tentang competition melayu) mungkin dah dapat agak sapa yang akan masok, sapa yang akan menang. Rancour is the safest to win the 4 yr contract. Giler korang, AMPAT TAON. Jgn memain. Lama tu, so mesti lah pilih yang the safest and the one that can go far. All this planned lah. </p>
<p>So what, lagu diaorg macam Blink 182, Greenday and Sum 41? Kids will like. I&#8217;ve grown out of that phase liao.. Aku sekarang suka lagu spanish or anything gelek2. Dangdut pon ok jugak&#8230; oopss, digress lah pulak.. back to the topic, i thought the original song by Rancour sound very much like Blink 182. Mungkin telinga aku ni tak dengar sangat, tapi aku kuatkan volume nak komperm. Macam Blink 182 jugak aku dengar. </p>
<p>Last but not least, mmg ada kita tak suka sapa yang menang, but nevertheless, yang menang diaorg bukan kita. Yang dapat duit, contract, hadiah, mangkok perek, semua diaorg.. bukan kita. So kita duduk one corner sakit hati sendiri.</p>
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		<title>By: FatSkunk Supporter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FatSkunk Supporter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi PM, 

Been an avid reader of your blog no matter wad other say.. hehe

well anyway back to Anugerah Band. I love FatSkunk from the start. love the music and how santai they can been and how they engaged the audience to join in the fun. But too bad they are not handsome young like Rancour, which give them plus points to win. 

Now marketing play a big part in promoting your music to people and especially out of Singapore. I notice that in Malaysia i never heard of a reggae song in there. Is it not being exposed or they hardly hear such music or ada yg step reggae and santai?

Whatever it is the winner have emerged. Nothing can be done 

*Anyway it feels to be like watching Anugereah between Maiya Rahman and Aliff Aziz, 1 with talent vs 1 have the whole package except the singing ability*

-Just a penny of my thoughts-]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi PM, </p>
<p>Been an avid reader of your blog no matter wad other say.. hehe</p>
<p>well anyway back to Anugerah Band. I love FatSkunk from the start. love the music and how santai they can been and how they engaged the audience to join in the fun. But too bad they are not handsome young like Rancour, which give them plus points to win. </p>
<p>Now marketing play a big part in promoting your music to people and especially out of Singapore. I notice that in Malaysia i never heard of a reggae song in there. Is it not being exposed or they hardly hear such music or ada yg step reggae and santai?</p>
<p>Whatever it is the winner have emerged. Nothing can be done </p>
<p>*Anyway it feels to be like watching Anugereah between Maiya Rahman and Aliff Aziz, 1 with talent vs 1 have the whole package except the singing ability*</p>
<p>-Just a penny of my thoughts-</p>
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		<title>By: bualgitar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bualgitar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rancour winning is a no-brainer. They had the looks, played decently well nothing special, and definitely the &#039;market&#039;s in-thing&#039;. If you put Metallica or Sepultura or Killswitch Engage last night using different names, they would have lost too. But at least Rancour came from my hometown of Yishun. So go Yishun homies.

X-Tech should not have played that Dewa song. Fadley was out of tune after the first song. 

Trabo was mediocre last night.

If rock and metal sua &#039;fixed&#039; tak bleh menang, I thought the next best thing was Fatskunks tapi obviously &#039;tembam-tembam&#039; people are considered &#039;unsellable&#039; by some people. Another defeat for music.

The best performance was the Ikrar Perwira cover. Hands down. Sixth Sense got no business there yesterday. Boring!!!!

But what shocked me was the Best Vocalist and Best Musician awards.

Kesian, Fadley X-Tech and Farhan Knightwings performing consistently throughout the competition and then losing to that woman?!? Is that woman a vocal powerhouse? female rock singer? You want a real rock/metal singer? - NEEZ SHAZANA of Ethereal and Tormentress ( all gal thrash band from SG ). Find out more ppl. The underground has more exciting music than the mainstream.

And best musician should go to SHAHRIL, yes SHAHRIL, again SHAHRIL of OSSUARY, ooops X-TECH. Which idiot chose that lampu lap lip fella? Sorry ahhh, kalau ada orang nak cakap gua step faham cakap lah. Licking your guitar and stepping on the Whammy pedal set two octaves higher to create that high pitch sound DOESNT make one the best musician? Gua kalau ajar anak gua yang umur nak masuk 4 tahun satu bulan pun, dia sua boleh execute itu trick! Sorry if I burst some bubbles here. I&#039;m not Vai or Petrucci or Malmsteen or Blackmore but none of the guitarists in Anugerah Band are of Hagstrom, Cazares, Flynn, Peterson, Ian or Holt&#039;s standard in playing synchopated riffing either!

Eddy Ali needs to watch the Dismember gig this Sunday, where he&#039;ll probably get a eart attack seeing &#039;evil&#039; metalheads surrounding him!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rancour winning is a no-brainer. They had the looks, played decently well nothing special, and definitely the &#8216;market&#8217;s in-thing&#8217;. If you put Metallica or Sepultura or Killswitch Engage last night using different names, they would have lost too. But at least Rancour came from my hometown of Yishun. So go Yishun homies.</p>
<p>X-Tech should not have played that Dewa song. Fadley was out of tune after the first song. </p>
<p>Trabo was mediocre last night.</p>
<p>If rock and metal sua &#8216;fixed&#8217; tak bleh menang, I thought the next best thing was Fatskunks tapi obviously &#8216;tembam-tembam&#8217; people are considered &#8216;unsellable&#8217; by some people. Another defeat for music.</p>
<p>The best performance was the Ikrar Perwira cover. Hands down. Sixth Sense got no business there yesterday. Boring!!!!</p>
<p>But what shocked me was the Best Vocalist and Best Musician awards.</p>
<p>Kesian, Fadley X-Tech and Farhan Knightwings performing consistently throughout the competition and then losing to that woman?!? Is that woman a vocal powerhouse? female rock singer? You want a real rock/metal singer? &#8211; NEEZ SHAZANA of Ethereal and Tormentress ( all gal thrash band from SG ). Find out more ppl. The underground has more exciting music than the mainstream.</p>
<p>And best musician should go to SHAHRIL, yes SHAHRIL, again SHAHRIL of OSSUARY, ooops X-TECH. Which idiot chose that lampu lap lip fella? Sorry ahhh, kalau ada orang nak cakap gua step faham cakap lah. Licking your guitar and stepping on the Whammy pedal set two octaves higher to create that high pitch sound DOESNT make one the best musician? Gua kalau ajar anak gua yang umur nak masuk 4 tahun satu bulan pun, dia sua boleh execute itu trick! Sorry if I burst some bubbles here. I&#8217;m not Vai or Petrucci or Malmsteen or Blackmore but none of the guitarists in Anugerah Band are of Hagstrom, Cazares, Flynn, Peterson, Ian or Holt&#8217;s standard in playing synchopated riffing either!</p>
<p>Eddy Ali needs to watch the Dismember gig this Sunday, where he&#8217;ll probably get a eart attack seeing &#8216;evil&#8217; metalheads surrounding him!</p>
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